059 - Regina Verret Foster: Embracing Transformation with Celestial Support
Welcome, dear listeners. Today I’m in conversation with doula, astrologer, and human design practitioner, Regina Verret Foster.
In this episode, Regina shares her transformative journey from spending ten years as a disheartened corporate attorney to embracing her passion for astrology, human design, and birth work.
Together we walk through the many thresholds Regina has navigated as a mother, birth worker and celestial guide, and she offers us the wisdom she’s gathered along the way.
Tune in to learn more about:
The process of deconditioning to align with one's true self
How to integrate astrology and human design as tools for self-discovery and growth
Why we can’t rely on external validation when entering a new phase of life
The astrological impact of the total solar eclipse on April 8th, 2024 and beyond
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Episode Transcript
Sarah Tacy [00:00:05]
Hello welcome, I'm Sarah Tacy and this is Threshold Moments, the podcast where guests and I share stories about the process of updating into truer versions of ourselves. The path is unknown and the pull feels real. Together we share our grief, laughter, love and life saving tools. Join us. Welcome to Threshold Moments.
Sarah Tacy [00:00:42]
Today we have with us Regina Verret Foster. Regina supports people going through transitions and awakenings by using astrology and human design as navigation and orientation tools. These modalities are more specifically to help to validate intuition and encourage change in the direction of soul alignment. Welcome, Regina. You're a Mama of two and that's a big deal and you're a wife and that's a big deal because those are all like really play into the constellation of how we experience work and experience life that you have been in the birth work world for a while.
Sarah Tacy [00:01:31]
And I think we'll be talking about that a bit in here. And then I might also just say that I think at some point we'll talk about a transition you made from corporate to what I just described, but I wanted to do more like present time in that intro.
Regina Verret Foster [00:01:48]
I feel like you really nailed it, especially where I'm moving more towards because I do have an element of birth work and postpartum work that I do in my, in my company now that's changing. And so I know we'll talk about threshold moments and different things like that, but I, I'm at a moment where things are shifting in those areas and I'm moving more towards the energetic and metaphysical work as well. So I feel like, I feel like you really encompassed what I what I am focusing on mostly.
Sarah Tacy [00:02:18]
Beautiful. Sometimes I listen to my own podcasts and when I do, what I love is that I hear the intro to the podcast and I often forget it because I'm not saying it out loud before each one. So the intro says Threshold Moments is a podcast where guests and I share stories about the process of updating into truer versions of ourselves. The path is unknown and the poll feels real. Together we share our grief, laughter, love, and life saving tools And this for me just feels really perfect for our conversation today. I'm wondering if you could take us back to law school maybe?
Regina Verret Foster [00:03:06] T
hat feels good.
Sarah Stacy [00:03:08]
And how you felt in your body, what motivated you and at what point did you notice that something was out of alignment?
Regina Verret Foster [00:03:22]
Oh, there's so many moments. I went to law school specifically to get into a niche field, international human rights law, and I specifically wanted to work with women. And I knew that I've always wanted to work with women. I don't know, since I was in like middle school, it would be just a thing. I just felt like I'm here to work with other women.
Regina Verret Foster [00:03:42]
I've really felt that really deeply in my soul. And I've always been interested in other cultures, other countries. And that started in college. I started really getting into that and I was born into my family were family of immigrants, right? My parents immigrated here from Haiti.
Regina Verret Foster [00:04:00]
And so I was born into a multicultural environment where I had to integrate who I was from being at home and in my like Haitian parents, my Haitian family multilingual setting to going out and being in in the 90s in America, in Florida, where you really shouldn't be from anywhere else. So, so that was an imprint on me and I, I just knew, OK, I'm going to law school. I really want to work doing nonprofit work. I want to do international human rights law. I want to work with UNI, have those like sort of ideals.
Regina Verret Foster [00:04:29]
And in law school, I, it was a very competitive environment. I do think that there was a lot of support and a lot of people would rally together to study, get together, but it was competitive. And I do feel like, you know, I was confronted with my ego in a lot of different ways, especially in class, especially, you know, it was the first time I realized that I think differently than the group in a lot of ways because there was a lot of posturing in class. There were a lot of people who would sound like they knew what they were talking about, but the information would be wrong. And I just believe them.
Regina Verret Foster [00:05:05]
So that would happen over and over and over again. So I definitely felt a lot of pressure in law school. I felt depressed at different points. I felt like I was on the right path, but then I had moments of just complete and utter disillusionment. I ended up going for a summer to work at a nonprofit in Cameroon, and it was wonderful, but I just became really disillusioned with the nonprofit world.
Regina Verret Foster [00:05:29]
I became disillusioned with the whole concept of why I even went to law school. I was like, oh, this is what I'm going to be doing. But I hate it. I hate it. And I think it's actually being done wrong.
Regina Verret Foster [00:05:39]
So, you know, that was like the first ping of like, what do I do now? I have this information and I know that I don't want to necessarily work in the international nonprofit sphere because what I found while I was in Cameroon is that yes, I was working with an A Cameroonian organization, but everything they did was at the behest of who was giving them the donations. And we'd have these conversations with other civil society organizations. We talked to the village. We knew what the actual ever present issues were and what were most important to work on.
Regina Verret Foster [00:06:10]
But we had to pivot and work on whatever it is UNICEF wanted to work on or whatever it is, you know, the donations and the grants that they were getting coming from, they would pivot it to fit their initiatives for that year, not the actual country's initiatives. So it really bothered me. It really bothered me and it just seems like there was no end to that and that it couldn't be fixed and it was just such a deep issue and problem that wasn't going to be easily fixed. So I left that world not knowing where to go next with things. And then come graduation, I was with my now husband.
Regina Verret Foster [00:06:46]
He was looking for a job. We were trying to figure out life. I didn't want to just go into a career that basically is, yeah, one year contracts and you don't know what country you're going to be in. And it's a bit of a hard life. And I have a really good friend who's like really doing it. And she's been working these one year, 2 year contracts for, you know, 12 years at this point. And it's hard. It's really difficult. I just knew he was the one that I was going to marry. And so I was like, OK, let's look for something in DC because it can still be an international organization. But I ended up working with this corporation that I started working with part time in law school. And that's how I got into my corporate gig. So that's like Part 1.
Sarah Tacy [00:07:26]
What was your corporate gig?
Regina Verret Foster [00:07:29]
So I started out as like a researcher or account trainer for a company that did a lot of legal technology and worked with the largest law firms in the world basically. So it was legal technology. Everybody in my job was a lawyer, but I didn't have to practice. And so that was one thing that I really wanted because if I were to go straight into a law firm, I knew it would be, you know, 60 to 100 hour weeks. And I wanted to have some sort of balance in my life.
Regina Verret Foster [00:07:55]
And I was like, OK with this job, my salary's OK, you know, eventually I did get to 6 figures within like a couple of years, but it wasn't there yet. But it was like, I can live off of the salary and I can support my boyfriend at the time who didn't have a job yet because he was still looking. It was just a really hard time for, you know, legal jobs. And I could work 40 to 65 hours a week. I knew it wouldn't go over 65 hours a week.
Regina Verret Foster [00:08:17]
So I was like, OK, work life balance. I got it. And then first day, first morning meeting, I had so much nausea just from like hearing the morning meeting and what we were doing and like the job that I was in. And it was just like overwhelming me, overwhelming my system. I just knew I wasn't in the right place.
Regina Verret Foster [00:08:36]
But I don't know how to explain this. It's just, it's a gross example, but it's like when you drink too much and you're now in a public setting and it's the next day and you know, you have this certain sensation that you need to expel everything from the night before. I like emesis, essentially, And you can't. So you swallow it back down because you're a public place. So that's how it felt to me. I had to swallow all that nausea back down because, OK, I have this awareness that I'm not supposed to be here, but where am I going to go? I have an apartment to pay for. My boyfriend doesn't have a job yet. I just went through law school. I have all this debt to pay off. So I just sat in that for 10 years before I transitioned. So yeah.
Sarah Tacy [00:09:19]
I think this is so important for the listeners to hear. I don't know everybody who listens to the podcast, but I do know a handful of listeners. And beyond that, I just know that there are so many people who are in a place in their life where they know it's not fully aligned. So what I do hear is that you did hear callings early on and your callings have always been clear that you want to work with women. And I also hear wanting multicultural, and I hear wanting maybe even for the purpose of people being free to be who they are and having access to resource.
Sarah Tacy [00:10:00]
And that resource can come in many ways. And so I just want to say, like me knowing a little bit more about the work you do now. And then we track that. We track that there's something, we give something a try, and then it's all information. But then I'm going to just say that I hear an honor.
Sarah Tacy [00:10:19]
And I think this is where a lot of listeners can really grab on and say, like me too, when it's like great information that I shouldn't be here, but I'm not somebody who is just being handed money from somebody else on the outside who just says, oh, that didn't work. Now just go try something else. Like I have rent to pay for. I have another human in my life that I'm also supporting. I have student debt and I know I'm out of alignment and I'm wondering.
Sarah Tacy [00:10:46]
So there's like the in between place of I think it's like episode 2 where I talked about the cycle of awareness where there's like your normal way of being. And then there's this like, like that morning meeting, which would be like the first chafing of like something comes into the field where you know that it's no longer right. But then there can either be this dramatic thing of a surgery or an accident, or it can be like chafing overtime until it's like unbearable. But along the way you're looking for what else is available. And I guess I'm wanting to like just highlight this.
Sarah Tacy [00:11:26]
I know various people in various spots that sound similar. I can think of myself in a different version, in a different way, where sometimes that it's not just the fertile void, there's also the chaos and confusion state in between that and the fertile void that we'd like it to last three months, like 1/4 of a season might, but instead it's like 7 years, 10 years, 20 years. So I'm, I'm just re highlighting that and then asking, were there little steps, like little things that you were picking up on along the way that helped resource you and then led to something that you couldn't have, you couldn't have known without living through the way you did in 10 years?
Regina Verret Foster [00:12:10]
I mean, I do think it was really helpful to be with them for 10 years. I don't think I should have stayed 10 years, but I do think that it helped me grow in a lot of ways. I mean, I got this job when I was 26 and I was just learning kind of the ways of how I can show up in a professional environment. And you know, through the years, as I learned the lingo, as I got used to the type of accounts that we had and the type of people I was working with, and, you know, the type of lingo I had to use, it became a part of me. And I liked the prestige of my job.
Regina Verret Foster [00:12:40]
I liked being able to, you know, speak to really high-powered people. I got kind of in the game of things like I got very acclimated to that life in that environment. There were plenty of signals. There are plenty of signals in my body because that's where I feel at first that something's not right. And it was just like building and building.
Regina Verret Foster [00:12:58]
And it starts out so subtle, but then it just kept building and building and building. But there was a good run of ignoring those signals for a really long time and just getting in the game, playing it and trying to like elevate up the ranks of the corporate world and all of that. It was about two years before I had my child. I came upon this doula association down the street from my house. I was like doing the yoga class in this old mansion that they did different classes in and it was in Brooklyn and just fun and beautiful.
Regina Verret Foster [00:13:30]
When I saw this flyer and I'm like, what's a doula? I think I had no idea at the time. And I just I went to their little through their orientation and my mind was blown. And it I call this S node energy. I call it energy of just like remembering because it felt so intrinsic to who I was. It felt so aligned. I was like, how did I not know about this work? How did I not know that you can stand with a woman and support her so fully in this environment? And my mind was so blown and it again, it felt so familiar. I don't know how else to explain it.
Regina Verret Foster [00:14:02]
It felt like it had been work that I've done before, even though I had never heard of it before. So I went through doula training. I started supporting Mamas. I started supporting my family. I started just like when I really get into things, I'm like, have you heard the good news? I'm like, this is personalizing to everyone. So yeah, my family was really sick of me at this point. So I was going around and I was just, I was obsessed with it. And I still had, you know, I'm in New York City. I have an apartment in Brooklyn at this point. The first job was in Boston. So I moved from DC to Boston.
Regina Verret Foster [00:14:39]
Then I'd gotten a promotion. I moved to New York and it was just, you know, I was in the right place at the right time for sure. And I felt this calling to really fully be in birth work, to even maybe go to midwifery school. So I started making plans to leave my job eventually, but it was not the right time. We both had work at this point.
Regina Verret Foster [00:14:57]
Things were really nice financially for us. And it's New York City, you really do need money. So we were kind of like, OK, this will be our long term planning goal. I'll eventually go to midwifery school and maybe we'll move from New York. We'll see.
Regina Verret Foster [00:15:11]
So I just started being in that energy and I had my, my first daughter and she was at home birth and that rocked my world. Like it really did. My body started in postpartum. I just had so many like health stuff come up for me, like so many thyroid issues, fatigue, and I had postpartum anxiety the entire time that I was on maternity leave. And I think because I knew I had to go back to work, like I was feeling like the flow and everything of motherhood, there was something in the back of my brain like, don't get used to this.
Regina Verret Foster [00:15:41]
You know, you have to get back to work. You know, you have to put yourself back on a schedule. Don't go with the flow. So every day there was like something in the back of my brain just not allowing me to relax and just having this anxiety about leaving my baby. And we're in America. Everybody was like, Oh my gosh, you're so lucky. They changed the policy. It's now 16 weeks and it's all paid. How amazing. And I'm like, I did not feel ready to go back to work.
Regina Verret Foster [00:16:04]
I did not feel good in my body. I did not feel good with my leaving my daughter. She was not taking a bottle at that time. So she would wait for me to come home every day after work and be so cranky and be so exhausted and depleted. And I would feel all of that too.
Regina Verret Foster [00:16:19]
And I'd feel so stressed out at work, pumping, knowing that she's not drinking any milk because we structured our leaves very differently. When I went back to work, my husband took his paternity leave, thank goodness. But he was there with a cranky baby who didn't want to eat all day. So it was really, really tough during that time. And my body did not adjust to not being pregnant.
Regina Verret Foster [00:16:39]
I was definitely 15 to 20 lbs overweight from when I started. And so that was affecting me in a lot of ways too. So none of my work closed fit and I would go back to work and I would just feel like I didn't know who I was. I just, I lost all of me. I lost all parts of me.
Regina Verret Foster [00:16:54]
I wanted to be home. And it got just so much more competitive at work. I had recently gotten a promotion and so I was doing different things. It was not where I wanted to be because I was trying to think like Maiden Regina, like Regina before, before I had my child and I couldn't. And I was, you know, messing up at work. I felt like I was messing up at home. I felt just like scattered and all over the place. And it was just one of the, the darkest times of my life. And just knowing how much I was like, I need to leave this place. We really have to figure this out.
Regina Verret Foster [00:17:22]
So that was like halfway. That was like 4 years into my time at this company. And so I, you know, I just kept going basically until I got pregnant again. And I was like, this time after maternity leave, I'm gone. They deserve it. I don't care. Like I'm doing it. So I did. And I had my second baby. We decided to move right before, but I was still like, I was between Maine and New York.
Regina Verret Foster [00:17:45]
And so I still felt like I lived in New York until I actually took my maternity leave in November, like weeks before I was due for my second. And the same thing started happening. I had that postpartum anxiety, like, don't get used to this. You have to get back to work. Then there was like another voice, like, you're quitting after this.
Regina Verret Foster [00:18:01]
Like, it's OK, you can get used to this. And as I was, you know, getting out of my shell, I'm now in Maine fully. I gave up my apartment in Brooklyn. I have no friends. The only people I have access to are my in laws, which they're wonderful. What? That's all I had. I had my in laws and my husband and we were there and we were isolated and I had my second in the middle of winter, you know, in December. And finally when I was getting out of my cocoon, it was March of 2020. So of course everything shut down.
Regina Verret Foster [00:18:33]
And then I was like, well, now I'm working from home completely, so I might as well stay with this job a little longer. And that's when physically I started dying little by little. I was on autopilot completely. I wasn't sleeping. You would still had to kind of pretend you didn't have kids even though it was pandemic and everyone had their kids in the background.
Regina Verret Foster [00:18:53]
But I still had to be like, mommy's working. Mommy's working. And there was a point that my oldest started drawing and she drew this computer and she would pretend that she was working. Like that's when I was like, I need to do something. She's like, no, not now. I'm working. And she'd plan her paper computer. And I was like, something's not right. I really got to stop this because I'm ignoring my family. I'm ignoring myself. I feel awful. I draw comfort from food. I'm just eating whatever I want. And I feel sluggish and awful and terrible, and I feel dead inside. I was very dead inside at that point, You know, I wasn't connecting with anyone.
Regina Verret Foster [00:19:31]
Not my children, not my baby, not my husband, not anyone at work. They could tell that I was there, but not there. So like, my whole life, in a very subtle way, was just breaking down. And I was amorphously sick. And it's still to this day, like, I fixed my health issues. It's still a struggle to figure out what it is my body needs. But I was really, really, really dying inside. Like my heart, like everything was just all gone. I wasn't in my body. I don't know where I went, but I wasn't in my body at all. And that's when astrological Uranus hit my son and I just quit. I was like, OK, 2/22/22 sounds like an awesome date. That's going to be when I tell them. And I don't care. And I, you know, after 10 years of planning this.
Regina Verret Foster [00:20:14]
I had some savings, but I wasn't as prepared as I should have been after 10 years of knowing I shouldn't be at this job. But I was like, I cannot take it anymore. They're either going to fire me soon or I've got to go because I can't hide it anymore. I can't be a shadow of myself. So I quit.
Regina Verret Foster [00:20:31]
And before that, I've been running in the woods and the whole plan was to quit and go to Midway free school. But then I think, Sarah, you know, I work with a lot of free birth clients and that's what I've been doing in the birth world since. And so there was a breakdown of belief systems and what I actually wanted to do and how I wanted to work with clients. So midwife free school wasn't even the end goal. And that's why I stayed in the job two more years longer than I was supposed to. So I didn't know what I was going to do. It was like a fertile void moment. I'm like OK, is what it is.
Sarah Tacy [00:21:02]
Can I just pause? So for the listeners, when you say free birth, that means without a midwife there?
Regina Verret Foster [00:21:08]
Yes, yeah, it's like an autonomous birth where you are just with your family or a layperson that's there supporting you, not a medical professional. So yeah, free birth in that regard. And that's what I had with my with my second. And it was just the most amazing transformative experience that I could have had. And I wanted to focus on that.
Regina Verret Foster [00:21:29]
I wanted to empower other people to do that or guide other people to do that or see the power within themselves. And that obviously does not necessarily, you know, coincide with the lessons of midwifery, if that makes sense. So I didn't know what to do. So I was like, I'm going to quit, but then what am I going to do? And yeah, I was running through the woods.
Regina Verret Foster [00:21:51]
And at the time, I had been really into human design, really into astrology. And it's how I was like slowly healing myself. And I had this awakening moment. And as I was running through the woods, like I literally heard a voice saying, why don't you read charts? And I'm like, what do you need? I stopped what I was doing and everything. And I'm like, so, and then from there, I just started like I read all of my family's charts, their human design and their astrology. I started going into the depths of astrology and human design like obsessively. I have so many books, I have so many like resources that I would just dig into a second class after class. I'm still in programs now. And the rest is history essentially. Like, I totally pivoted and had enough energy and strength to say that I was going to actually work with people in a free birthing capacity for the birth work that I do. And that's how the Celestial room was created. So yeah. So I want to point out a few things so that before you heard a voice, you had already decided to leave. Yes.
Sarah Tacy [00:22:57]
So what I want to say for my listeners too is that, you know, if you're waiting to hear a voice, it may not come in the form of someone like saying what the answer is. And that Regina has given an example too of still making moves with a knowing within her body and all the signs from outside. And then I want to say that I have an experience in the past where I literally heard a voice. It was like 1 message one week and the next week a follow up message. And it was so clear on what I was supposed to do and it was like really scary. Both of the messages were really scary. Like I can't do that. I don't want to do that. Just give me 3 months to figure it out. Like I was like bartering with God.
Sarah Tacy [00:23:40]
Like can you just give me 3 months to figure it out? And it was like, and then physical thing started like shattering when I wasn't following through most of my life. That doesn't I don't hear with that clarity. But I do want to say that I've heard various interviews, not just on my podcast, when people do have the I heard a voice moment and it feels different than hearing a voice in your head. Like it feels different than like you're tracking the thoughts in your brain.
Sarah Tacy [00:24:08]
It's like something that you wouldn't think to say yourself that often can like, like you said, you just stopped and like it kind of like throws you for like, wait, really? Are you sure? Like does that make sense? Should I do out of business plan to see if that's a good idea? But when you hear it, you can't ignore it.
Sarah Tacy [00:24:28]
Like it's interesting how we can ignore signs in our body and eventually our body will win generally. But also if one were to ever have a moment of hearing a voice, it's near impossible to ignore. And so I love that the next step was, I feel like I'm just like, here's a step by step handbook. The next step that we're outlining is trying the services out with loved ones and friends and family because I think we get we can learn a lot from like you've studied so much, but the way you say it, do people understand it? And I can also imagine that the way you had to study for law school and the way I have a friend, Jennifer Rasiopi, who is also on here, who's also an astrologer, I have a really hard time understanding astrology.
Sarah Tacy [00:25:21]
I understand the body way better. I imagine understanding astrology is a bit like one who understands the body, where you see all these different parts and how they relate to each other. In that way it feels highly scientific and I could imagine that the way your brain had to work for law would also help you. Like would be a brain that would work well for gathering all the information that one must know for astrology or human design.
Regina Verret Foster [00:25:51]
I completely agree with you and I also want to say that the voice thing, it's not usually how things come to me. It's first through my body, exactly what you said so and it still hasn't been like a common occurrence and that's why it was so kind of earth shattering for me. So I do completely agree with you. And when I started really deeply studying astrology because astrology has been part of my life my whole life, but I didn't know you could even go into the depths of how much you could go into. I started out with like Linda Goodman books, which are books from the 70s when everybody was trying to make astrology more accessible.
Regina Verret Foster [00:26:24]
So had things on the sun signs and I knew my moon sign my whole life. And I knew the energies didn't really connect well with each other. And I would read like books about how do you align with a Cancer boss or you know, a tourist boss or anything like that. And it works. But I had no idea how deep you could go in until, you know, 2019 or something like that.
Regina Verret Foster [00:26:46]
So I will say, yeah, it's absolutely scientific. And when I went into the depths of it, it was the first time that I could speak the language that I was learning really well. It all just clicked, like, very easily for me. I could just track the patterns and the abstractions of how you can look at astrology. And it was the first time in my life I didn't have to, like, speak a different language to meld with the mainstream, if that makes sense.
Regina Verret Foster [00:27:11]
Like, it's the first time my brain was like, yeah, I get it. Whereas my whole schooling life has been like, OK, sit down and focus and like, try to say it in a way that people can understand you. And that's that. You can see in my chart as well. Like, I have Chiron and Gemini, which is the wound of words and, like, in thinking. And I think very differently than, I guess a linear thinker or just someone just in a, you know, typical classroom or what have you. And so it was the first time in my life, first time that I'm like, oh, I understand this. This is really cool. So yeah.
Sarah Tacy [00:27:45]
I'm not sure I'm going to be able to articulate this well. I'm just seeing a connection and maybe you've said it so it's obvious between having Haitian parents and growing up in Florida and feeling like you have to suppress one part of you that probably feels like really alive and known but not welcomed. And trying to figure out like what version of myself can I be that would be welcomed and accepted. And that as you come into this work with astrology that there is like a returning to a part of you where you go, oh, this is home. It doesn't necessarily look like helping people through law or how other like the Western colonized areas of the US would say like just a success. This is how you must talk. This is the lingo, but that now you can find something that's just like this clicks because it's in alignment with me.
Regina Verret Foster [00:28:42]
Yeah, Oh my gosh, 100%. You're really good about tying everything, even in ways that I didn't even realize. But yes, that was so, so spot on. Yeah, exactly. It was just the first time ever that I could understand what I was doing. And that's why I'm just, I'm such a fan of astrology. I'm such a fan of metaphysics. I'm a metaphysical nerd. Like, that's what I do all day. I'm like, just deep in the depths of trying to understand the universe.
Regina Verret Foster [00:29:05]
And yeah, it just changed my life in so many different ways. So I spent the first year of my business as people were asking me what I do qualifying it. Though I will say, you know, I had a lot of parents ask me because my daughter goes to school around here. Oh, what is it that you do? And I'm like, well, I started my own business and I, you know, do birth work as well as astrology. But I used to be an attorney before I was an attorney, you know, like I had to qualify it in some sort of way. And I stopped doing that and partially because I don't like hiding. I don't want to be that person anymore. I've hidden my entire life. You know, when I was leaving, I did tell them exactly what I was doing and I did not hide it.
Regina Verret Foster [00:29:45]
And I was so well received by my colleagues. It was kind of incredible. And it's the first time I really realized that there is such a shift in our collective. Like our consciousness is just so much more expanded. Even, you know, in 2022, people were really opening up in a way that they haven't before.
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Whereas everybody, you know, I would say in the 90s were like, oh, that astrology, that pseudoscience, it's, it's not real. It's, it's ridiculous. I can't believe you read the horoscope. It's very different now. And I feel like it's just so much more mainstream. And it's only going to continue. Like our consciousness is only going to continue to expand beyond what we think as time goes on with the different trends I'm seeing.
Sarah Tacy [00:30:25]
I can imagine that in your colleagues seeing you take a leap, I can imagine that for many of them there's also been a small call to a different way of being. And so when you told them the truth of what you were doing, I can imagine the celebration is even just like their own body in alignment of like, Oh my God, that's so brave. That's so courageous. I also imagine that there's generally like two sides where there could also be some people who are super judgy because they feel like it would never be possible for them or that, you know, they can put all the judgments on. But it's so great to say like, well, that's not mine to hold.
Sarah Tacy [00:31:12]
So I'm just going to tell you what is me and you can do with it as you please. And how lovely to be surprised by support instead of expecting it and not getting it. Like to be surprised by support is really like an added bonus. Sometimes my teacher will say, like, what if it's just a bonus there, right? Like if I'm so healthy within myself and you know, the closest relational dynamics I have that all beautiful friends or anything else, it's like a bonus.
Sarah Tacy [00:31:42]
Like I'm not looking or needing to draw on it. You know, my parents, we were on a walk and they said, you know, Sarah, and I think maybe it was my dad who said he's like, I'm really proud of you. And he was talking about the podcast and it was this moment. And this also just happened with my husband a few weeks ago separately, where I realized I was like never waiting for their approval. And maybe because I like, I know that people support me, but like, I was not waiting for their approval to keep going when he said that, it was just this added bonus of like, oh, thank you, that's so nice.
Sarah Tacy [00:32:17]
And I was also celebrating. I didn't wait for it. I didn't even realize I hadn't waited for it. So yeah, in this moment, celebrating the moments where when people give us their honor or appreciation of a decision that it's a bonus, it's not what's going to make it OK or not OK for us.
Regina Verret Foster [00:32:38]
Exactly. Yes, I had to learn that a lot along the way. I mean, a lot of what I did in life was to be approved job in a lot of ways, especially with my parents and their expectations and what they saw was possible for me, especially them immigrating through this country and seeing what works. And for them it was you're going to either be a doctor or you're going to be a lawyer. So pick one.
Regina Verret Foster [00:33:06]
And I'm really excited for you. And they were so proud of me when I graduated law school and so proud of me when I went into the corporate world and then corporate environment. But they have been amazingly supportive with this pivot in my life, though they do not understand it. And my father definitely is still very afraid for me. He's just like, you know, the kids are young now, but they're going to get older, so you might as well just get back to work, right?
Regina Verret Foster [00:33:29]
Like, and I am working, but he doesn't. There's just such a disconnect for him. And I don't know when the when the understanding will come, but I'm OK with there not being understanding at this point because I feel so alive.
Sarah Tacy [00:33:44]
I want to ask you a question about human design and astrology. And there's one more thing that I want to say, which is that I have been in the scenario a few times where I'm with other parents and they're not like in my closest friend group. And one time I was sitting at a gathering and someone goes, hey, what do you do for work? It was like a whole group of women. What do you do for work? My daughter tells me you're a witch. And I was like, oh, that's so interesting. I am awesome.
Regina Verret Foster [00:34:19]
I love it. I love it. I was like.
Sarah Tacy [00:34:21]
If you think about a witch, which you know, is someone who sees deeper and sees beyond and is there for the way that I see it, is there to give medicine and to help heal. And then I went into like some of the work trying to describe like the work that I do. And I just said, I think the patriarchy has put a really negative spin on that word, but I love to reclaim it. And I feel so seen. So thank you.
Sarah Tacy [00:34:48]
Another time, just like a few weeks ago that someone's like. So what do you do? And to describe somatic experiencing is really hard. Like sometimes I'll just be like, I'm a yoga teacher because I did that for almost 20 years. And I found myself going back like, oh, I used to work with professional athletes.
Sarah Tacy [00:35:04]
And then I help people who like, weren't, you know, I went through this whole thing of like, how prominent or like what I did or how much I travelled to teach other people and to kind of like separate myself and differentiate myself. And some of it is my story. And it was funny because then I'm like going through a 20 year story to say like, what do I do? And I'm like, what do you do? And she's like, I'm an architect and the other person goes, I'm a doctor.
Sarah Tacy [00:35:30]
It's just those moments where like it's just so hard to describe. But the work that we do, you and I can attest to the way it can support and change lives and that it often has to be experienced to be known. And that is why it can be really hard for people who aren't experiencing it first hand to understand it. So I just want to jump in with that. Maybe next time I'll just lead with like I'm a witch and the conversation will just stop and end
Regina Verret Foster [00:36:03]
Yeah. You know, I feel like I'm going to have to do something like that or you're an alchemist of sorts. Like that's when you were describing what you do. And I was like, yeah, you're an alchemist, You're a healer. Like, that's just who you are.
Regina Verret Foster [00:36:17]
You're a Weaver in a lot of ways, too, because even in this experience with you, you're able to follow the threads of conversation and weave it together in a way that is just so unique and beautiful and so spot on. So you have a lot of amazing things that you do and amazing gifts that just come out while you're doing, you know, podcasts or while you're doing the somatic work that you can't necessarily quantify through conversation. You're right, they have to experience it so.
Sarah Tacy [00:36:49]
I would if I could give you a little praise back was before this conversation started. We hold the card, which was really fun. Maybe we'll say something about that, but also we were talking about the podcast and you're like, well, you're a generator. So it makes sense that if this, then that. And I don't know if you pulled something from the chart too, but I was like, same thing with your ability to weave to like know information about my chart, but then to see what I'm doing in real life.
Sarah Tacy [00:37:18]
And when you said it, it helped me to understand how some of the flows of my conversations go and why they might go that way, which is why when I did your bio, I said used as a navigation tool, but also orientation. And something that Kate Northrop and I were just talking about the other day is that sometimes some of the most healing nervous system work can even just be to have words that Orient you to space and time so that you don't feel like you're just spinning in the cosmos with no direction, but to go like, oh, of course you're feeling this way. Let me show you this on a graph. And for me, they're like nervous system graphs, right? And for you, be like the cosmology. Proper word for it.
Regina Verret Foster [00:38:01]
Yeah, that's exactly it. That's exactly it. And I, I go back to this because I had a friend who's no longer a friend now. She used to work on herself all of the time. She's incredible and she still is an incredible person.
Regina Verret Foster [00:38:14]
She struggled with getting support and help and having other people see her because she would get very defensive and she'd get her walls would go up. So she didn't really take kindly to advice. She didn't take kindly to somebody else reading her chart, for example. She was an astrologer as well. I kept going back to this feeling and this quote of we cannot see ourselves without a mirror.
Regina Verret Foster [00:38:37]
So we of course have our own resonant energy, right? It just, it's so different when someone else sees you, when someone else can point the blocks that you have out, when someone else can see an unconscious pattern happening over and over again and pointed out so that you open up a new recess in your brain and it becomes known to you. So I do think it's really important that we work together and we, we see each other in a way that maybe we're just blocks from seeing ourselves. And that's why I love this work.
Sarah Tacy [00:39:06]
So the work I do actually stems from a school called Alchemical Alignment, which is why I loved when you called it Oh.
Regina Verret Foster [00:39:12]
My gosh, that's amazing.
Sarah Tacy [00:39:15]
And one of the phrases that Bridget Bixons will use is accurate reflection with the power of accurate reflection. And it also made me laugh because the yoga studio was specifically for private. It's not for classes. And there was a mirror up on the wall because it used to be a Pilates studio and I chose not to take it down. In the yoga world, there was this often like this thing of like take down all the mirrors so people aren't looking at themselves.
Sarah Tacy [00:39:41]
They should be able to feel it inside. But something that I know from doing research and development for a sports performance agency for like a while was that once we have a certain pattern, once we've done something 300 times to 500 times, we it no longer goes up to the conscious regions of our brain. So I could think that. Both of my arms are straight say and down dog. I could think both of my arms are straight and so the teacher could be like straight in your left arm straight and I'll just assume they're talking to someone else because it feels 100% straight.
Sarah Tacy [00:40:14]
So it would take someone from the outside telling me that it's different than how I'm perceiving it from the inside or it would take looking in a mirror. I had a client once who was doing A twist and he opened up his eyes and he just started laughing out loud. I was like what's going on dude? And he was like, I just thought that I must look like you because this twist feels so deep that I feel like I'm an owl and I'm a ****. And he just had to like turn like 5°.
Sarah Tacy [00:40:39]
And that was as far as he was going. And so as again, it was just like, great. It's so true that this is a really deep twist for you and you've moved 5°, which is great. It's just like some accurate reflection, right? So having both the internal and the external and when they match up, when they do eventually match up, how attuned and oriented you can be and how settling that is for the nervous system and also like clarifying of next steps.
Regina Verret Foster [00:41:10]
Yeah, absolutely. I love that. Thank you for sharing.
Sarah Tacy [00:41:13]
I want to kind of go out on the question about April 8th, so I'm going to tell you the two questions I have. One is around human design. I feel like a lot of my listeners don't know about it, so I don't know if we'd have time to like say a thing or two. And then also the question of like, like how sometimes a category can help because of accurate reflection and sometimes it can be confining and just wondering if you ever see the way that it can be confining or someone could like give up their power in certain. Well, that's just my design. There'll be one question and the other question is around April 8th because this podcast is going to come out on the 2nd.
Regina Verret Foster [00:41:51]
Oh yes, yes, yes. OK, so human design for people that don't know, I guess I'll give a quick and dirty explanation of what it is. It's a mapping system and when you're looking at the particular chart, it's called a body graph. And so the body graph has like 9 energy centers on it and they're all very similar and related to your chakra system. So it's the head.
Regina Verret Foster [00:42:12]
The ajna is related to your third eye, the head is related to the crown. The throat centers, your actual throat chakra. The G center is they break up the heart center, if that makes sense. This G center is identity and love and the heart center in human design is actually the ego and the will. And then you have your solar plexus, which is the emotional center and you have your sacral, which is the life force energy.
Regina Verret Foster [00:42:36]
And what if you have it colored in? You'd be a generator. So there's five different types of energy within human design. And then you have your clinic area and your root center. So there's a lot of energy centers and you read that body graph according to the energy centers and it pulls from the Kabbalah that you chain the tropical astrology biometrics.
Regina Verret Foster [00:42:56]
It was a channeled system. So its creation is definitely contested and it's something of controversy, but I do believe in channeling. So I really do love the system and it's, it's also made to be experimented with. So you kind of check it out for yourself and see if it works as well. But the whole premise of it is that, you know, you have 5 different energy types and that's the most important thing to know is your energy type.
Regina Verret Foster [00:43:18]
You're either a generator, a manifesting generator, a projector, a manifester, or a reflector. And that'll determine your strategy and authority, which is how you again, respond to life, how you have your aura work in alignment for you. And so if you're a generator, for instance, your strategy is to wait to respond. And that doesn't mean just sitting around twiddling your thumbs. It means that things come to you and they show themselves in your external environment in a lot of ways.
Regina Verret Foster [00:43:45]
And then if you're a sacral generator, you respond with your gut, just like I knew I wasn't supposed to be in that job. And I had this like gut feeling to the point of nausea that I was not supposed to be there and I ignored it and I suffered for it as a result. But those quick signals, you know, you could be an emotional generator and you have to kind of wait for emotional clarity or to be emotionally neutral before making these really big decisions in your life. So it's just this like graphing system that'll tell you the easiest way to work with your own energy. And I on human design to be so resonant and so able to get me back in my body more so than anything, even more so than astrology, because medical astrology is the other like body physical point of astrology.
Regina Verret Foster [00:44:29]
And it's very different. It's still acts very different than what human design can do for you. And astrology brought me to just the deepest parts of my own psyche. It brought me to understanding why I am the way that I am. All these things that I've tried to shut out because it's just unusual or weird. Like, why did I want to become a nun at 11 years old? I don't know. But there's this huge spiritual point in my chart that makes it all make sense. So it's an incredible system. It's meant to play around with, to experiment with. And yeah, I guess that's not so quick and dirty.
Regina Verret Foster [00:45:03]
That was amazing. That was amazing. I heard even at the end when you had the nun part was like the affirming, you know, the affirming of what's there so that you can stop trying to do things the way everybody else does it and go like, oh, this is. And the way that I've heard tell Darden say for human design is seeing it like, oh, here is your blueprint. Like here is what life might look like if you were living in alignment with yourself.
Regina Verret Foster [00:45:33]
So if you see your chart and it's like, oh, that's not me. There's a possibility that because you may be like buried down deeper, deeper, deeper, deeper. And that as you keep aligning more and more with your true self, there's a high likelihood that your chart will feel spot on.
Regina Verret Foster [00:45:49]
Exactly. And there's a deconditioning process that the founder talked about, like the founder is Rufu and he basically tells that it takes around 7 years to decondition. And deconditioning is just taking out all those forms and those patterns and those, you know, unconscious behaviors that you've formed through like mainstream thinking through your family that have been imprinted upon you, but are not your natural energy. And so that's why it's meant to be experimented with and played with and through that process become a little deconditioned and more in your own energy. And from what you said before about the people limiting themselves as a result of knowing these tools, I try my best in all of my readings to set intentions that take what resonates, leave the rest.
Regina Verret Foster [00:46:33]
And also do not let this limit you in any way because there's so many forms of expression of an energy in human design. Specifically, there's energy exists on a binary. There's that, you know, less expansive contracted energy and then there's the more expansive version of it. So no parts of yourself can be limited. And we always have free will.
Regina Verret Foster [00:46:51]
And if you notice an unconscious pattern that you're exhibiting because of a square in your charter, because of a gait that you have in human design or something like that, or in astrology, you can identify that unconscious behavior, know it, and then rewire. That's the whole point of it is just to see yourself in a way and grow from it and to expand from that point. So we're never limited. And I hope that I also make it a point to make sure that people know that I'm just reading the energy. But I am also a human in a flesh suit.
Regina Verret Foster [00:47:21]
So this is coming from the level of consciousness with which I'm at right now. And I'm always trying to expand that, you know that point, but I'm still a person. And so you are the ultimate authority over your entire life and your energy. So I really tried to say that during my readings and to really imprint that.
Sarah Tacy [00:47:40]
Yeah, that's so great a podcast that's coming out today with yours in Beverly Waters. It is the 5th of March was about the boxes we find ourselves in. And so I I love even hearing the deconditioning of like a being a seven-year. And I know that again, is going to change of how we interact with the information we have and we're receiving. But again, it's permission to take time, that it's not going to happen overnight. And so, yeah, their conversation had a lot to do with the boxes we're in, Noticing we're in a specific box. How did I get into this box? What box would I like to be in? Like what? You know, just asking questions.
Sarah Tacy [00:48:24]
And as we become more of our true self, to go back to this, the process of updating into our truer versions of ourselves, to keep asking, to keep noticing, because even we do, that we might put ourselves in a different box. So April 8th is a full solar eclipse. Yes. And in certain parts of Maine, we'll be able to see it. And there is a graph online where you can see if you're in a part of the world in which it'll be visible. Would you be able to tell us what this means to you astrologically and if there's anything else you want to say?
Regina Verret Foster [00:49:00]
Oh my gosh, I am so excited about the total solar eclipse on April 8th. I think it's so interesting that it is going to be over western Maine. So personally, I'll be driving up into the energy and I'll be doing a meditation like fully on. Like I'm going to be meditating in that chaotic energy, in that strong unpredictable energy. Usually during eclipse season, I actually mind my own business and I stay home to be honest, because eclipses, the ancients thought of eclipses as malefic as, you know, a time of like great fear.
Regina Verret Foster [00:49:36]
So it's not that I subscribe to that, but what actually is happening during eclipse season, which is starts well before April 8th. It's eclipse season is going to start pretty much. We're going to feel it. It's you know mid March into mid-April well go into eclipse season during this time there just is a point of it acts like Uranus energy. It acts unpredictable things of certain chaos starts to occur during these times you become more aware of different awakenings or different things in situations that were unclear before you get clarity.
Regina Verret Foster [00:50:08]
Then they always, most of challengers recommend not to looked on it necessarily. Like the clarity that you get. Don't act on it until after eclipse season, after you've seen it kind of play itself out, after you really understand what it is that has become clear to you. So it's interesting like during these new moon or full moon events that are eclipses, I usually wouldn't work with the energy because I would let it pass through me and just see what comes up. Usually I'm doing some sort of new moon ritual or full moon ritual During those times.
Regina Verret Foster [00:50:39]
Historically I would just leave it. I would just be like, like, OK, I'm in the energy, I'm going to feel it out. Because it's when you're setting intentions with unpredictable energy, you can get a quick, fast response, but you can also get something really just unpredictable, right? So it's chaotic energy that you're working with in general for eclipse season. And this total solar eclipse is in Aries. It is very intense. It's very Martian and I'm an Aries moon. I've got an out of bounds Mars, which means you just it's a lot in my chart and I love Aries energy. I've learned to work with it. I've learned to love it. Even though I'm an earth sign Taurus that likes calm. I personally have like really opened up into this part of myself, into that Martian energy.
Sarah Tacy [00:51:22]
For my listeners, can you describe Aries energy and Martian energy?
Regina Verret Foster [00:51:27]
Yeah. So Mars is the planet that rules over Aries and Aries is the ram, Aries is very much that go getting fast energy. Aries is the pioneer, Aries is brave, Aries is the warrior. So that kind of archetype is what can encompass Aries energy. And so this, you know, new moon, the solar eclipse is in Aries.
Regina Verret Foster [00:51:49]
And so we want to look in the sky for where Mars is at that time because it's going to be very important. And in the chart of that solar eclipse, Mars is going to be right next to Saturn. And anytime you have Saturn and Mars together, you have the forward moving propelling energy of Mars being stunted by Saturn. But what it actually does is it creates momentum and tenacity. It creates the ability to really stick with whatever it is you're going to pivot into.
Regina Verret Foster [00:52:18]
Whatever it is you're moving towards, you're going to stick with it. You're going to put structure around it and you're not going to just go into it without a plan. So I think that that's really important for the eclipse themes that are happening during, you know, April 8th, if you can be in the energy, if there are any, you know, local listeners listening at this time where they're going to Western Maine, like I am enjoy the energy. It's going to be very intense. And we're not going to be able to see a total solar eclipse in the US anyway until 2044.
Regina Verret Foster [00:52:45]
So it's not a common event. I remember watching a total event solar eclipse when I was in elementary school, right? Like it's been a really long time. It's been a really long time. I'm beyond excited. I'm taking my kids. I'm like, let's go see this energy go school today. We're going.
Sarah Tacy [00:53:03]
So I just want to say again, astrology is hard for me to digest, but I hear Saturn and it reminds me of like Saturn return. And So what Saturn reminds me of is this idea of a turning point of who we are, how we put ourselves into the world. So I'm now kind of taking that feeling of how we are going through a transition generally with Saturn of identity. This may not be at all what Saturn is about. And then adding the energy of the RAM, yes, and sticking with that. And that feels really powerful.
Regina Verret Foster [00:53:35]
Yeah. I mean, if you think about Saturn returns, people go through an identity crisis during this time. So it is very much tied into your identity. It's about your maturation. It's about thinking about reality in a lot of ways, the 3D reality, what's in front of you, what can you actually complete that's going to manifest in this reality?
Regina Verret Foster [00:53:53]
And so we're putting that kind of energy with Mars, who wants to just go and start their own thing and do things out of their own will. So honestly, together, accidents can occur. Like it's not a great combination sometimes if you're thinking about mundane astrology and what can happen when Saturn and Mars come together. So definitely take care, be careful that day, whatever. But in a psychic sort of way, in an energetic way, what's happening in your psyche, absolutely it's going to give you that forward momentum to stick with it and to work hard towards your goals or towards where you're going and towards who you're becoming. And that's such a huge energy imprint. That's like it's going to be a theme for six months afterwards. So it's not going to go away very quickly.
Sarah Tacy [00:54:36]
Well, thank you so much.
[00:54:38]
Regina Verret Foster Huge April is a huge month in our society so like.
Sarah Tacy [00:54:43]
15 minutes ago I'm like, OK, now it's time to close up and you say April's huge, can you just say a thing about?
Regina Verret Foster [00:54:49]
That's April's honey. I'm so sorry. I could go on forever on this. I April 20th, we're having Jupiter and Uranus come together in what we call a conjunction, meaning they're just right next to each other. They're going to be at the same degree.
Regina Verret Foster [00:55:02]
And when that happens, they end up blending energies with each other. And Jupiter is all about luck and expansion and future visioning and your philosophies and belief system. And Uranus is the higher mind. Uranus is chaos, but it's also access to aliens. It's like the future visioning.
Regina Verret Foster [00:55:20]
It's the ability to channel in information that does not exist on this plane. And so all of these astrologers are excited about this time because it doesn't happen very often, maybe every 14 years. But it hasn't happened in Taurus. It's only happened in Taurus 3 times since year 1100. So we have not had Jupiter and Uranus come together in Taurus in a really long time, a really long time.
Regina Verret Foster [00:55:47]
So it's all about societal awakening. It's all about clarity as a society in the collective. And if you are someone who has Taurus or someone who has Aquarius, Leo, Scorpio in your chart and you have it out around, I think it's going to be at 21 degrees, 49 minutes. So if you have that at the later degrees, maybe within 7°, look at your chart, then you're really going to be feeling this energy on a personal level as well. So just, you know, look out for that in your chart.
Regina Verret Foster [00:56:17]
But collectively, we will notice advancements in technology. Taurus has to do with food, our food structure, our money, our, our farming. So there might be just changes in that regard. Uranus has a lot to do with technology, so lots of technological advances. Uranus also has to do with space.
Regina Verret Foster [00:56:36]
Uranus also has to do with aliens, right? So there might be more disclosure in that regard and we might be awakened to other forms of life that have existed along with us in ways that we didn't know before. So I don't know what's going to happen, but it's definitely priming us for, and I will not even say it because I know we'll go down on a tangent, but there are big changes up ahead in 2025 into 2027. So it's priming us for that, those big collective changes that are happening. So very exciting.
Sarah Tacy [00:57:03]
I'm excited. To I feel like my body's like, oh, I got to shake. This feels big. OK, thank you for taking us all the way into 2027. And also for listeners who are listening generally, most of the listeners for each episode are like within the first seven days. So I'm excited that this will land like just in time for that full solar eclipse. And anyone who listens after, I'm also hearing that the energy continues on and we just went into 2027, so it doesn't.
Regina Verret Foster [00:57:41]
A lot of changes. We're just going to change the society. Things are going to get a lot quicker as the big signs change or the big planets, the modern planets change.
Sarah Tacy [00:57:51]
Well, thank you so much for your time. It was so great to have you here. Thank you for sharing your story. I think it's one that has many aspects that people can relate to and are going through themselves right now. So it's so generous of you to share with us your process.
Sarah Tacy [00:58:05]
And I also just want to celebrate that you are now in a place in your life. I hear you're still making shifts as most of us do, who are continually awakening that. I've heard that you are feeling so much better in your body and so much more aligned. And if people want to work with you, where can they find you? I have done a human design reading.
Sarah Tacy [00:58:24]
It was awesome. We did it as we were opening a ritual last year. It was so great. And so if someone wants a human design reading or an astrology reading, where can they find you?
Regina Verret Foster [00:58:35]
Find me on my website, which is just the celestial womb dot love, or they can find me on Instagram, which I'm just at the celestial womb. So yeah, contact me that way. And there are plenty of links to my various readings that I have available. And yeah, just going to expand from there. And my, my offerings, like I said before, are changing and shifting, but more into energetics as opposed to my lovely birth offerings and postpartum offerings. And I don't know what to do with them yet, but they are morphing into something really amazing. So yeah.
Sarah Tacy [00:59:08]
Thank you so much. Thank you.
Sarah Tacy [00:59:17]
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